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There's no discharge in the war!

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c9df93 No.480825[Reply]

Let's have a PDF thread going. Going to dump some stuff I have.


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9b71e6 No.601577

File: ab76b743b3f01e2⋯.pdf (136.37 KB, Underground Railroad - Mis….pdf)


Checked my print copy. Pages 76, 90, and 120 are blank filler pages.

Here are the two missing pages with text.

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394405 No.542033[Reply]

The limit of banners has been increased to 300, so please post any new /k/ themed banners in this thread as long as they do not exceed 500 KB, and are 300 pixels wide and 100 pixels tall.


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09a2c1 No.601152

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91d774 No.339941[Reply]

Welcome to /k/

If you're looking for gun history, terms, the basics to gun laws, or what gun you should buy next, go here: http://amagicalplace.wikia.com/wiki/Sticky#

Other board of interest:


Rules: http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/k/rules.html

Check the sticky before posting.

All random questions about guns go in the QTDDTOT thread.

Please check the Catalog before posting and avoid duplicate threads.

Tripfags need not apply; see rule 7

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f7b161 No.597616[Reply]


Fuck my life.

Having only access to black powder cartridge firearms sucks.

How the fuck could i get my hands on smokeless powder without a permit ?

Any swiss fag that could help me personally here ?

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33af43 No.597644


Pretend to be an asylum seeker and sneak in with the rest of the hoards. Do us a favor and kill a few on the boat on your way over.

bd66e3 No.601578

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Here is how to make some , i have tryed and failed many times but who know , maybe you will make some good baches

ff1fc3 No.601613


It's black powder, anon. He would need nitrocellulose to get smokeless one. It can be made using acids and sometimes bought as ping pong balls, for example. But i only know that much about it, i have never worked with it personally or with powder made from it. There are single base powders so you do not necessarily need to play with nitroglycerine. You have to do your own research.

Anons, are there different single base powders? Pistol/rifles ones, especially? How do they differ?

bd66e3 No.601677


Pistol powder is weaker there four there is a deferents , shotgun slug powder has more sulfur compared to outer types of gun powder

ff1fc3 No.601678


Are you sure you're talking about smokeless powder? There should be no sulfur in one, unlike black powder.

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df2196 No.598113[Reply]

is it worth joining the national guard if you want to get fit and get discipline in your life. i heard they will give you preboot camp training if you cant make the requirements. I'm am not really close i weigh 200 pounds and I am 6 1. i try go running and go to the gym but my self discipline is shit. College has made me lazy. i don't really want to fight for Jews and be shipped over but it seems the national guard doesn't really do that. Is it worth it?

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6ff20c No.599477


>perfect scores on the ASVAB, ended up going infantry

Retards. Or moral cowards. Anybody and everybody with brains is needed everywhere but infantry.

6ff20c No.599480


They waited until the end of the Cold War to get rid of their scum of the earth into soldiers policy. And claim its because scum make poor soldiers. FFL isnt what it used to be.

e0ad11 No.599841


Army reserves has up to 20k bonuses

a32a3f No.601675


Not ICE, though.

7dfdfd No.601676

You train in the most advanced army on earth

And get money for it

Sounds like a good deal to me tbh

Just dissapear when shit starts tho

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f84e02 No.581292[Reply]




>Flecktarn or modox gear

>Steel/Kevlar helmet with "/k/" on sides or front

>/k/ related patches on carriers, hats or pauldrons (a la peace walker/mgs5)

>Visible 8 of diamonds or 4 of clubs

>Nationalist paraphernalia and flags

>Green, blue and/or purple tape/cloth around bicep



>STALKER memes

>"What time/day is it?"

1488/Day of the Rope




>Get a Baofeng Handheld Transceiver

High value radios with models to choose from (try to only use genuine units and accessories)

>License free band considerations:

"Lowest bandwidth and power settings possible"

No repeater use, antenna height and length restrictions


>MURS Ch3 151.940Mhz

US, Good from rural to urbanized locales

>FRS Ch3 462.6125MHz

US, Better for cities with tall buildings

>FREENET VHF Ch3 149.050Mhz

EU, use sparingly before SHTF as only fully legal in Germany

>PMR446 Ch3 446.03125MHz

EU, Basically FRS for Eubros.

>CB Ch3 26.985Mhz

HF freq, almost guaranteed daytime long range coPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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863a3f No.601406


Yep, they wanna even make us have to register black powder firearms. Because fuck freedom, because fuck being able to defend our homes and livelihoods. Good thing that we still can own tools, when SHTF I'll gladly sink my axe in some brainlet's skull.

8aee8e No.601407


The expensive/autistic shit is. There is no tism like reenactment tism.

8b4ea3 No.601410


You wouldn't happen to have taken your guns with you to mazury and lost them on śniarwdy, now would you?

horrible loss if that happened.

5f8ada No.601541


Anecdotal but

The poles here (South Wales) seam to at least be good workers, at least compared to the muds. Not that this place isn't going downhill with our authoritarian government and all~


>Limiting gun ownership in the name of freedom

It almost seems like they want people to call out a contradiction.


Boxers a shit. Get the tighter kind. That's it.


Being expensive seams to defeat the point. The engineer/biker boots >>600784 mentioned seam to be the evolution of jackboots, and come in the long but adjustable length i need ;w;

8aee8e No.601674


Engineer boots tend to be shorter due to their origins, red wings might have something. About cost, anything made to last these days costs a pretty penny.

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41e274 No.546766[Reply]

Old thread will no longer bump back up to the first page, creating a new one.

Old thread >>530956

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4a5c42 No.601606

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1715b4 No.601641

Are soft/hollow point flechettes possible? If yes, how would they look like?

60c5f1 No.601652


if you're going to go 1911, just save up and buy a Les Baer, Ed Brown, or something on that level.

41a2d4 No.601658

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>No Para

>Not even a fucking Wilson Combat

>Kimber and Remington are okay

>The Colt 'frame cracking under 2000 round count' wondergun is listed under god tier

What fucking kike put this list together?

000000 No.601673


Never heard about that before. I don't know about nonstandard flechettes. But I know that flechettes deserve a thread about them because they kick ass and could probably be better developed with modern technology.

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64c3e5 No.601574[Reply]


Does anyone know how to make real napalm , not that crappy i am

a edgy 16 year old YouTube bullspit

There really isn't a good way to find info about it

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093b43 No.601665


>The first steps of course would be to heat bleach, then add potassium chloride, and then boil the solution. I see this one often. Never do they mention that chlorine gas is created when you boil bleach

Chlorine gas is created when you open the bleach bottle. Boiling it doesn't "create" it, it simply accelerate the natural evaporation of chlorine as chlorine wants to be a gas and doesn't like being a liquid.

Which is basic shit that is written on the bottle…

Let natural selection do it's job.


>Hi FBI.

This is public knowledge, you have dozen of sites (including perfectly serious ones) that report on the composition of military Napalm. Criminalization of knowledge isn't a real thing, that's why Al-Qaeda and the US army get away with publishing books with bomb building instructions in it or why the judges told the state to fuck off about CAD and 3d printer plans.

If OP hurt people with it rather than burn down his barn (because he's already demonstrated he couldn't do a simple google search… guess what is the most likely outcome?) there is plenty of laws for his ass to land in jail.

7d30b5 No.601668


>Criminalization of knowledge isn't a real thing

Behold, the story of "The H-Bomb Secret"

> http://progressive.org/magazine/november-1979-issue/

900fd3 No.601669


> accelerate the natural evaporation of chlorine

Yeah, that's called creating a gas

900fd3 No.601670

Also the murdercube is apparently down. There's probably a book or two on there directly related to napalm

7b9639 No.601672


That shit sticks to kids, ya know? Better steer clear of it, kiddo.

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064960 No.600047[Reply]

/k/ommandos - I need to be redpilled on load bearing equipment (LBE).

What kind of LBE do you recommend? Chest rigs? Plate carriers? Old school style vests? Something else?

Is it a good idea to have a water bladder on your LBE in a pouch on the back? Does this cause problems when using a rucksack?

What manufacturers would you recommend? And who should I avoid buying from?

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f6d069 No.601479


These are what I could find off the cuff:

ArchAngel Internal Frame Load Bearing System (IFLBS)

Crye Precision Structural Kinetic Support System (StKSS)

Virtus Dynamic Weight Distribution Spine Bar

7d0543 No.601568

File: fa8ca680383c1e2⋯.png (774.22 KB, 1203x630, 401:210, Gear Dynamics Patrolling R….png)

/k/ommandos - what do you think of this style of LBE? This particular rig is made by Gear Dynamics in Canada.

Looks like a good rig to use with a backpack or rucksack, keeps most of your pouches around your waist, but I don't think it would give as much support as a belt rig.

b946b3 No.601653

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b946b3 No.601659


If you're being a poorfag:

> https://www.platatac.com/platatac-modular-belt-pad-mk2-5909.html

> https://www.platatac.com/platatac-low-pro-first-line-suspenders.html

^ with these two, you have yourself a decent setup for $68.30 (pouches not included).

I would then suggest dropping by your local disposal store and buying 4x Minimi pouches, if the price is lower than on the site, but if not:


$35 ea x4 =$140

… So for a total of $208.30 you'll have a full setup capable of carrying up to 800rds (in theory). The only other thing you'll need is some large zip-ties and paracord to attach them firmly to your rig. You even get free shipping because your order is over $200.

You could even grab 2x of these to keep a multitool and torch in:

> http://www.platatac.com/platatac-small-universal-pouch-mk2-6183.html

…for $12 each atm.

For the contents, inspire yourself either with my kit list here>>600808 , or look up what soldiers carried in WW2, Vietnam, etc. and adapt it to your needs.

Oh, and always carry a dry set of spare socks in your webbing, sealed inside a couple of tough ziplock bags.

b6a4e1 No.601671


Looks a lot like the old air force rig. It's shit.

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4712af No.601454[Reply]

This is my very first time posting in this board,im sorry if cant post this here but i do not know any other place for such questions.

I recently bought a bundeswher set of trousers from the 1950's (originals) but i am concerned about the danger of having been exposed to chemichal or nerve agents since well,they are already second hand,how do i make sure they are clean and wear them,the same question goes for a pair of flecktarn pants that i bought a year ago.but these ones are modern pants,how do i make sure that second hand military clothes are clean of such chemicals or agents,what do i do? thanks in advance

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941c44 No.601642


>what do i do?

>Find someone you don't like but who will do as you say.

>Make them wear the clothes

>Have them do heavy exercise to get the sweat flowing

>Did they die?

If yes then you've got a tainted pair. If not then wash them very thoroughly and enjoy your milsurp.

97e15c No.601649

Most chemical agents aren't stable in the atmosphere for that long. V and G series nerve agents don't have a long shelf life, especially if not synthed with very low impurities. Older agents are more volatile and should be completely gone, but in the worst case, washing with alcohol, or gasoline if you are feeling extra retarded, in a well ventilated environment should do the trick.

Regardless, if we haven't heard any stories of the people handling milsurp getting poisoned you shouldn't worry.

c4625f No.601651


>Not a suspicious form of death that will eventually lead to way to many questions.

My question for the OP is, why does he suspect these are tainted with CBRN material?

941c44 No.601666


I thought that in Mexico any body that didn't have bullet/stab wounds was filed as 'natural causes'?

c4625f No.601667


I hate it when you're right Satan.

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a39307 No.599084[Reply]

>current year

>not bolting AGLs, ATGMs and MANPASs on your tanks

>not making them twin-linked

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b148a4 No.601428

Bolted armour was already obsolete by the beginning of ww2, yet nowadays every new vehicle has optional bolt-on armour. Is it different beause they are bolted onto a solid hull (instead of an skeleton frame)? And what kind of bolts are used exactly?

c16230 No.601437

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He's in a band with a emale wrestler called Reika Saiki, iirc they just did a charity wrestling match with a bunch of idols in maid skirts.

e601f2 No.601576


>do not aspire to purchase the tanks of “Armata” in large quantities

Big mistake IMO. The biggest, if not only, advantage of the armata chassis is in the logistics since commonality that allows you to make all your armed forces armata-based.

btw my question towards tankfags cause I hardly have a clue on the subject:

Why isn't the armata multi-role chassis a good idea? How much can a generalist chassis design compromise the performance of different specialized treaded vehicles?

f8cc96 No.601614


The engine and drivetrain in most modern AFVs is modular, right? Not 'modular' in the sense of 'its just like LEGO, i can mix and match parts', but in the sense of 'unscrew four bolts, lift the whole assembly out, set it aside for repair, drop in a new unit and go'.

Having one chassis that can do everything with mix-and-match add-ons seems like something the Good Idea Fairy came up with. I guess we'll see how it plays out. In my mind, if you really wanted to maximize ease of repair and logistics, you'd turn as many critical systems as possible into plug-and-play assemblies, and then make those assemblies commonalities to all of your vehicles. So even if you have dedicated chassis for your APCs, IFVs, MBTs, AA, et al, they all use the same motor, the same turret ring, the same suspension bogies, and so forth.

ba9811 No.601664

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>Why isn't the armata multi-role chassis a good idea?

I see no reason why it wouldn't be a good idea. Unlike planes, you can get away with just bolting stuff onto tanks without impacting their overall performance too much, although ships are the true kings of that. If you want a truly modular system, then you should do this:

>1st tier: frontline armour

It has to take enemy direct and indirect fire head on. Basically something like the Armata, just with even more modular armour. It comes with enough armour to withstand the autocannons of more common potential enemy IFVs, but you can armour it up against MBTs.

>2nd tier: frontline support

This should be like a lenghtened chassis of the previous vehicle that has a system to pick up and drop shipping containers. Of course it can carry supplies too, but you can continerize heavy mortars, MRLSs, AA guns, EW systems, command posts, and many more things. You could even use them as APCs with the right containers. So it's to replace vehicles that might get targeted by enemy artillery and possible their vanguard too, but normally they shouldn't directly engage the enemy.

>3rd tier: the second line

Trucks that carry shipping containers, nothing revolutionary here.

>4rd tier: light vehicles

The modern equivalent of jeeps, and also whatever memevehicles the special needs forces like to use nowadays.


Vid related, you could put one into a truck and a dozen into a tank.

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c218a6 No.586407[Reply]

A hub for people with a taste for knives.

Will answer questions and give insight on knives, since I've been collecting for a long time , using knives in the outdoors and practicing knife-related martial arts.

Will not bother with the retarded sub-types and mall ninjas and teens like those found on cuckchan.

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4535c9 No.601115

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Hmm, yes I've heard some bad reviews about Bark River, although fanboys always say that their lifetime warranty will offset any mistakes. But if they're fucking up their tempering/heat treating then I'll stay well away.

The LT Wright knives like the Genesis come in flat grind, although their handles are micarta. Still it's not an ugly micarta per se. And I found one page selling the LTW Genesis with a beautiful wood handle, albeit for a rather painful price. How do they hold up?

I'm really stuck on the need for a rosewood/desert ironwood/dark red wood handle on my knife. I've considered some of the custom makers on the bushcraftusa forums. Adventure Sworn makes a lot of beautiful wood scaled knives, although their prices might be a bit too painful to bear and I don't spy a flat grind in their stock. Are you familiar with any custom makers and their work quality?

You'd think it wouldn't be so hard to find

>Wood scaled

>Flat grind

>Top tier high-carbon steel

>Simple spear point/drop point, no goofy shapes

Is there at least a micarta handled knife that looks like wood?

Another question: How do all the high carbon steels hold up to each other? The LT Wright Genesis uses A2 and the vaunted Spyderco uses O1 steel, how do they compare to the 10 series like 1075-1095? What's a good tierlist?

a96fa0 No.601120


Whoa my dick actually twitched at the havocworks.

c6a0b5 No.601288

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Fanboys say a lot of things. It'd be one thing if it were a minor defect, but we're talking about full-convex knives that can't cut through a chopstick without sustaining tremendous edge damage. Couple that with boxy handles that wear into your hands and you've got a serious problem. Shame, too. I really like their 1909 Michigan Bowie.

It's not as hard as you may think. Have you considered Andy Roy's work over at Fiddleback Forge? The Recluse in particular is a great blade. There are lots of good makers who retrofit blades with new material. Sunrise Custom Knives is one. Survival Tactics was another until they closed their doors. Justin Gingrich from Ranger Knives did them on occasion. I'm going to take an Ontario 12" machete to get it rehandled with natural canvas micarta.

I don't have any infographics at the moment, but googling "knife steel guide" pulls up decent pages. That's not much of an offering, I realize, but what you're asking for is a question that requires a big and dedicated response, and most of the top results there can answer that.

Good luck.

ee37c2 No.601646

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If only you knew how bad things really are in the knife world.

c95256 No.601663

All I have is a Sanrenmu 7010 and Victorinox Huntsman. Have no use for a fixed blade at the moment.

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d56ebc No.600415

I have a hi-point under every seat of my SUV. It seats 7.

bee5f9 No.601128

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off topic but related somehow since there was that underage 21 guy here

>fuck gun laws molon labe pro-2nd amendment woo!

while in the same breath

<i will only privately sell to you if you're older than 21 (even if it's a rifle and shotgun)

<i will also require a bill of sale with just as much info on a ATF 4473

really makes you think

<i support the 2nd amendment

really makes you think

37cb92 No.601130


>that filename

I believe I am the glowing government man you've been looking for, sir.


anon-kun where did you save that? considering the filename, you didn't have it for as long as I have. I don't remember where I uploaded it but I remember uploading it somewhere on this site. it's interesting to me that I'll upload an image I haven't seen in ages, and then magically see some other anon post it….

92fbee No.601656


I have a handgun that I bought when I lived in TX, but can't get any new one in NC since my sheriff has a bad history of not approving handgun permits and don't really want to get a NC carry license since I'm moving in less than a year and don't want to have to get another. Ignore my flag, in Keflovick airport on a layover

52ee48 No.601661



I almost forgot how fucked up Tarheels were for a moment, but thanks for reminding me of the purchase permit bullshit.

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f6f916 No.600954[Reply]

Is Alaska the most /k/ state ever?

>state laws that say "fuck your shit" to the NFA

>entire state is woods to go Inna

>woods are fucking gorgeous

>cold keeps niggers away

>lack of cities keeps lefties away

>if ZOG gets its way and WWIII happens, Russia is right there Either for border skirmishes or defection, your choice

>can go to the border and taunt the leaf with muh freedumbs or beg them to smuggle in cheap SKS

>high cost of groceries encourages you to hunt and make your own food

>railways for resident trainautist

<high cost of groceries means you're stuck with the local flavor

<shipping funs and ammo into the state is annoying

<tax money goes to snow injuns who need mo money fo dem programs

It's not perfect, but then what is? I'd have to experience a winter firsthand before I'm more than a wistful LARPer, but if I could stomach it I might decide to live there.

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323fdf No.601637


I don't think it's all milk, but a fair amount of it. Economy of scale probably makes it cheaper to fly/ship it in than starting a ranch, but I'm no expert so don't take my word as gospel.

f40ed6 No.601640


Economy of scale might lower the prices, but it does not mean that starting a ranch is impossible. There might be better things to invest into, but i highly doubt that it would not pay off in time. they have industrial equipment, but have to ship all the products, while you have less products produced for given time/work, but do not have to do the shipping, so unless you put more resources in than you can get profit out of final product, which is unlikely as the technology does not give as big advantage in here as it does with other industries, you would be fine.

Unless the products cost almost as much as the materials for them, you can make profit of them. This profit might be impossibly small, but it can be done. If you make guns, unless you spend more on metal than you can get from selling a gun, it's profitable, technically.

Ranch requires little resources, few tools and the main investment is land, so it can be profitable anywhere people live, theoretically.

b20cda No.601645

There are moose in Alaska so why not breed them for milk?

4714f7 No.601647


Highland cattle are actually similarly cold hardy like mooses, they also have very tasty (fat rich) milk. also, i think if you fuck around with a female moose (a moose cow?) you'll have hyper aggressive bull mooses trying to charge you down.

b20cda No.601654

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You are about the moose bull.

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bd1d7e No.600834[Reply]

Now that even the USAF has recognized the F-35 as a meme what would you like to see coming out of the the F-15X proposal?

I just want to see mass production F-15 S/MTDs finally enter active service after all this time, the lack of canards among US military aircraft in CY+3 is a crime against aesthetics.

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9a36a1 No.601483


The funniest thing is that it had as much trouble to take off as it had to land with its pilot intact. Probably the only plane in history with which landing was easier than lift-off.

91e1ab No.601571


> most energy lost by T/V is from creating an angle between propulsory force and the aircraft's moving trajectory.

This loss is much larger than drag loss from aerodynamic surfaces. Wings (stabilizers are wings too) have lift-to-drag ratio in the 10 range. In worst case in the 4-5 range. That means aerodynamic surfaces creates 4-5 units of drag per 1 unit of rage. In worst case, mostly higher. With TVC at 30 degrees angle you create 3.7 units of 'lift" (side thrust) per 1 unit of lost forward thrust.

00bd71 No.601579


Yes but aerodynamic drag increases dramatically with speed, especially from transonic forward while tv is not affected, and more importantly, tv is performing pretty much consistently at every angle of attack without losing its control with stalls. That said, having thrust vectoring on default combat maneuvering is probably not a good idea but it can be invaluable for defensive maneuvering and opportunistic openings, just put a tv-enabling pinkie-button in the HOTAS controls.

91e1ab No.601587


>Yes but aerodynamic drag increases dramatically with speed

Lift increases dramatically too. So you need less deflection of stabilizer to achieve same lift (control authority). Ratio between produced lift and drag is … lift-to-drag ratio.


This is only where TVM is really useful

b34ec6 No.601643



>escapes surface to air missiles on the regular

The US has only had to bomb targets with their A-10s under the luxury of nigh-complete air supremacy, against targets with literally no surface to air capabilities (besides pointing their DshKs upwards). As much as grunts cheer it on for its ability to kill goat herders for them, the A-10 is fucked against a modern IADS that hasn't been degraded.

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